Susannah Batley

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230 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 22 Jul

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Shared Lunch · "Wealth doesn't come from wages” · 22 Jul 2026 podcast

I mean, that's what we found doing the research is that 80% of employees would be willing to get some of their salary as shares.

So overwhelming majority.

But there is a big education gap.

where about two thirds of employees surveyed are not familiar with employee share schemes.

So they want equity, but they're not familiar with some of these structures.

So I think that's where a lot of the opportunity is that there is an education gap to bridge.

Yeah, so if you work at a company that is already listed, then that's obviously quite a big advantage because there's already liquidity in those shares.

So once they vest and they're yours, then you can sell them at any time or you can hold on to them and reinvest those dividends over periods of time.

For a private company, and the majority of companies in New Zealand are private,

it looks a little bit different.

Sometimes it is a big transaction like an acquisition that creates that liquidity event for employees to get paid or get the cash.

Other times for companies that have been private for a long time, they've created their own liquidity mechanisms.

So they might, for example, particularly if they're profitable, be buying back shares every year so that employees can sell some shares and get that liquidity.

And actually,

A really great global example of that is Stripe, the payment technology company.

We all sort of assumed that Stripe would be listed by now.

We have seen a real move for companies to stay private for much longer.

And Stripe have quarterly windows.

So every three months, they're running an event for employees to sell their shares back to Stripe and get cash if they want.

Yeah, I completely agree.

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