Susannah

So that was difficult in terms of...

for the people involved, but for the viewers, it's what makes it so excellent.

I think with The Six Nations, they were very wary of that happening and they didn't want to give Netflix the access that the likes of F1 or Full Swing did.

You did get a few really good stories.

I mean, Bruno was talking about Andrew Porter just before we came on air and everything you learn about him and his family and his childhood.

which that was incredible.

But that's almost a standalone interview in a wider show.

And then the show didn't have the same drama or narrative arc that Fionn was talking about to make you want to watch the next episode.

You might as well just watch The Six Nations and then read an interview about Andrew Porter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.

Well, and Marcus Smith, but I feel like they tried to do to him what they did with the F1, which was making this luxurious character, but then it didn't really fit in rugby in the way it fits in F1, and then people hated him for it.

Which is not fair, you know?

So, yeah.

You touched on something there that made me think of something, but I'm losing my train of thought in this podcast, so let's just skip to...

another sports this is this is a film so it's not a series but it was a film that came out post kind of lions action in 1997 and brona said we basically just have to include this because of how iconic the words are you have an awesome responsibility on the eight individual forwards shoulders awesome responsibility this is your fucking everest boys

Yeah, that's what Bruna says to us in the box every week before we go out and record.

We just listen to that on repeat.

For him.

That's from the Living with the Lions documentary film that followed the 1997 British Lions tour to South Africa.

And that's just an example of access, I think.