Ta-Nehisi Coates

It is not... There's a great book that I... I don't really want to write about this book, but it's by Chris Hayes called Twilight of the Elites.

And it's about how in various sectors, you know, people who, you know, are in an elite class have kind of given up their authority.

And we are...

kind of living in that right now you know but it's just this is the complete complete decline and for lack of a better term i hate that i keep using these words but for lack of a better term you know expertise authority you know those sorts of words and so if if massive people really come to feel and maybe they have already have that their elections are not real i mean i mean that's bad that's bad right yeah it becomes self-fulfilling yes it does yes yes exactly so we'll keep monitoring that

I believe people have the right

to determine how they governed.

I strongly, strongly believe that.

I also believe that even when we object to things that their leadership does, or that their government does, that we don't have the right to then subject them to genocide.

This country, in the lifetime of many people, overthrew the government of Iran because it didn't like it, then went and overthrew the government of Iraq because it didn't like it.

And we would be very, very angry if any group of people cited that as cause to do harm to civilians in this country.

The degradation of Palestinian life

that we have seen particularly over the past, I don't even know how long it's been now, but since the onset of this war, since October 7th, is horrifying.

And we will not get away with it.

I just strongly believe it.

I don't believe that you get to degrade life in one place and then escape from it untouched.

I just don't think that's how the world works.

And so to hear him talking like that,

you know, about these people who, you know, to be ruled over.

I mean, I'm at a point, and I'm sorry to rant about this, but, like, you're talking to somebody who has, you know, talked to people and who knows people who, you know, gotten out of Gaza.

And to hear these people talked about with no will, with no decision-making power, with no ability to determine, like, how they'll live and how they'll, you know, be ruled is just...