Ta-Nehisi Coates

who is just determined, you know, to become a tyrant or determined to just violate, you know what I mean?

And who's elected.

You can't really design a system that, you know, is foolproof.

You know, because he was saying, you know, he had come from this space of thinking of the Constitution as this, you know, great genius document, you know, emanating out of the American people and all of this.

But what he had taken over his years was that really is actually quite hard to design a system.

that is invulnerable to the kind of things that Trump is doing.

Now, the Department of Homeland Security made it easier, I would say, but to make it completely, it's extremely hard to do.

Some of this is not about rules, man.

I don't know why more people don't talk to him.

I mean, he was just so wise, and you know what I mean?

He was so free.

I mean, if we start at one place, because I didn't expect to talk about this whole thing about constitutionality and how he himself had changed, which was very, very interesting because he didn't go into the interview and say,

ha, ha, ha, I was right.

You know, all these other people were wrong.

I mean, you know, he told the truth about what happened.

But then he said, listen, I'm just going to tell you, even I did not foresee it going this far.

Like, you don't, like, paint it like I knew, like, Trump was going to happen.

I did not.

I did not.

And, you know, one of the stories that we did get in that article was that he talked about how – and I just –