Ta-Nehisi Coates

She's such an important figure and an important activist.

You know, it can be the latest chapter and be different too.

Like it can have precedent and also be like, both can be true, you know?

I would struggle to tell you a time in my lifetime where at the federal level,

We're at the federal level.

So many resources have been marshaled across so many states.

We did have a period after 9-11, by the way.

We definitely had a period after 9-11.

But I think the scope of this dwarfs what we saw after 9-11.

After 9-11, we had the FBI, you know, essentially, you know, grabbing people off the streets for the smallest immigration violations, which is something we really didn't do before.

You got to see this as the whole thing.

It's not just Minneapolis, right?

It's Minneapolis.

It's Chicago.

It's LA.

It's national.

I don't think we've had that and also had the construction of concentration camps in places like Florida.

and had effectively the rendition of people into other jails.

We know full well that they're going to be tortured against the judge's orders, by the way, against the judge's orders.

I don't think we've had a situation where we looked at, say, the speech or the rhetoric of pro-Palestine activists or activists of whatever stripe and decided that would be grounds for us to detain them.