Tahlia Isaac

People go into debt when people go to prison.

You can just go to our website, www.projectherself.org.au.

Okay.

We're on Instagram.

You can just give us a little Google and it can come up.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think people who are so angry and like you call naysayers, they're so angry and really have this like tough on crime approach, just do a little bit more digging, you know, like you've done.

Go and listen to the National Press Club address or read the book or just like sit with yourself and –

Why are you so angry?

Like, why are you so hateful or vengeful to people who have never done anything to you?

Yeah.

Because that's often, like, people who are so angry and tough on crime.

Like, what did I do to you?

Yeah.

Like, what...

Wow, when did you get so angry at a whole cohort of people you've never met?

It's just people need to really reflect on why they are so, I guess, vengeful when it comes to people who have committed offences and whatever the reason may be, but like sit with that and like learn a little bit more.

And I think be more educated on what it is and really listen rather than just hearing with the intent to spout more tough on crime stuff, you know?

Thank you.

I appreciate it.