Tal Becker
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 8 Aug
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or the language that Israel is a kind of colonial entity and illegitimate because of that.
In other words, the kind of mindset that Israelis believe Palestinians have is a mindset that rejects the very idea of Jewish self-determination.
Now, we have radical voices within Israeli society too, and I don't want to diminish that either.
On all my years of being involved in the peace process, it's got a bad name, that phrase, the peace process.
If you want to produce change, the first thing you need to do is generate a belief in the possibility of change.
And I think both societies believe fundamentally that change is not possible, that the societies they see, not just the leaders, but the societies they see are not ones who genuinely would like to move to that future.
In Israel, we have a feeling of, you know, we offered and they said no in repeated negotiating efforts of which I was involved in one degree or another.
And that, I think, feeds this environment that we're just stuck and we can't do anything about it.
And what I want to talk to you about today, Dan, and I like the way you set it up, is that despite all of that, and there's room for that, and it's understandable, and our cynicism is understandable, and our skepticism is understandable, there are a set of reasons why that paralysis is doing us a lot of damage.
And we really need to think how we emerge from it and what might be possible, because there are a whole bunch of imperatives, both related to the
This kind of mode of being where we kind of throw up our hands and say there's nothing we can do is doing us real harm.
Let me put it this way.
This is a conflict about two peoples who each want a place on the planet to call their own.
Two peoples with a story of indigenousness and belonging and a right to self-determination that they want to realize.
And in its aspirational sense, the Palestinian state is meant to be that place where the Palestinian people realize their right to self-determination in a way that isn't threatening to Israel, in a way that enables them to live in prosperity and peace, but that also respects the Jewish people's right to self-determination in their own homeland because of a recognition of this idea that these are two peoples with a story of belongingness to this land.
I'm a little allergic to the word solution, Dan, as listeners probably know, because I don't think foreign policy is really about solving math problems.
You're trying to make life better.
But those who advocate for Palestinian statehood in that way are basically saying we have to give an avenue for the Palestinians to have the full realization of their collective identity in a space of their own in order to create a reality where Israel is able to do the same and isn't threatened.
But of course, from an Israeli perspective, that depends completely on whether that state first is an entity that resolves the conflict or creates more appetite to continue the conflict.
And second, whether in reality, that state doesn't become a kind of terrorist state, failed state, or a platform for extremist actors, as we saw essentially in Gaza.
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