Tamara Jackson

So it's about character.

Yeah, it's a great question.

I think what we're seeing is this next generation of leaders wants receipts.

They don't want talk.

They don't want the fancy speeches.

They don't want any of that.

As you've said, it's about who you are inside and whether or not they are able to connect with that.

So at Beaconship, one of the things that we really emphasize is, and this is a hard word, but having a level of vulnerability.

What I have found, you know, I don't have kids of my own, but I do have a goddaughter who is with 16 going on 30.

I don't know how in 16 years she's developed so much expertise and wisdom, but you know how it is when you're a teen, right?

You think you've got it all figured out.

But one of the things that I have noticed from her is that she is more concerned with connection.

She wants to know, you know, not only the great things that have happened, but the tough thing.

She's really good at asking me questions, even in moments of difficulty.

When I lost my mom a few years ago.

as I have had, not all of my ventures have been successful.

She's been really good at asking those thoughtful, reflective questions to get to the heart of, okay, well, what did you learn?

And how was that?

How did that feel for you?

And so one of the things that we encourage leaders to do at Beaconship is not just lead with the metrics, not just lead with your expertise, but what have your experiences been?