Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Tamay Besiroglu

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
878 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I would be pretty surprised by that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So I think Robin Hanson has, again, talked about this, where he said a bunch of the things that people fear about AI are just things they fear about change and fast change.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So the thing that's different is that

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

AI has a prospect of accelerating a bunch of this change so that it happens in a narrower period.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I have never seen a good argument for this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Higher risk tolerance.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So if you're looking at the software singularity picture, I agree that picture looks different.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And again, I'm coming back to this because obviously Daniel and maybe Scott to some extent, they probably have this view that the software-only singularity is more plausible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And then one person would just be in a position to like โ€“ we could end up in a situation where their idiosyncratic preferences or something end up being more influential.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

That's right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I agree that makes the situation look different from if you just have this broader process of automation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But even in that world, I think a lot of people have this view about things like value lock-in, where they think this moment is like a pivotal moment in history.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And then we're just going to have, like, someone is going to get this AI, which is very powerful because, say, of software-only singularity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And then they're just going to, like, lock in some values.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And then those values are just going to be stable for, like, millions of years.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And I think that just looks like very unlike anything that has happened in the past.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So I'm kind of confused why people think it's very plausible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I think people have the argument that they see the future, again, in my view, in sort of far mode.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

They think there's going to be one AI.