Tamay Besiroglu

I mean, you don't need to talk.

I mean, the internet is a pretty useful thing in this respect.

And you don't need to necessarily talk to people.

Like, you can get a lot of benefit from reading.

Like, you just need to identify, okay, like, who are the people who seem, like, constantly most interesting.

And you can also get a lot of benefit of maybe you found one person.

And then often that person will know some other people who are interesting.

Right.

And then you can, like, start tracing the social network.

So, for example, maybe...

I don't know, like one example I can give, which I think is actually accurate, is like maybe you know about Daniel Ellsberg.

So you like look for a podcast where he appears on.

You notice that he's appeared on the 80,000 Hours podcast, which he has.

And then you notice like there are some other guests on the 80,000 Hours podcast.

So maybe there's Brian Kaplan, who has also appeared on the podcast.

And then maybe Robin Hanson has also appeared on the podcast.

And then, you know, maybe there are some people those other people know.

And then like just tracing that kind of social network and like figuring out who to listen to like that, I think that can be.