Tansy Harcourt

what most companies sit under has very strong rules about all sorts of things, one of which is whistleblower rules.

And if you take the time to read the Corpse Act, it actually specifically separates out big auditing and consulting firms.

They're not caught up in it.

It's written in the Act.

They're completely carved out.

And that, to me, seems odd and obviously needs to be changed.

So there's that side of things.

And then there's also the issue of what happens if something goes wrong.

And there's a court case that I think is about to start kind of kicking off that has been brought by another former KPMG partner,

who was a former whistleblower.

I suppose he's still a whistleblower of sorts.

I think you do.

Yes.

So Mr Lyon, he's now an academic at the University of Wollongong, and he's raised really...

serious issues around the fact that there's a limited liability that any of these firms face if something goes wrong.

And so we'll see how that one plays out in court.

But basically, no whistleblower protections and limited liability if something goes wrong.

Hundreds of millions of dollars.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, I think it matters a great deal.