Tara Stoinski

Six years.

Yeah.

No, it's true.

there's so many cute moments with the silverbacks these big huge males holding these little infants playing with them they're sliding down their backs and I was just thinking like as a dad watching it with your kids to see that those interactions exist in guerrilla society just like they exist in ours

I will say, I feel like the gorilla males, they are beloved.

They are the center of attention when it's resting time.

Everyone's resting around them.

The moms leave their kids with them and go off and feed, and the males babysit.

I do feel, because there's not as much intragroup competition, that for male gorillas, it's still a stressful lifestyle.

But watching chimps is just, to me, it's like watching aliens.

They're always making noise, yelling, screaming, running around.

The gorillas, those screams you heard, that's like all you ever hear from gorillas.

That's it, when there's a fight.

Other than that, they're quiet.

They just sort of grunt to each other.

I'm over here.

I'm over here.

Yeah.

You know, the other thing, Dax, I thought you would find fascinating about those Ngogo chimps is that they are incredible hunters.

I think it's the one example, other than humans, of one primate hunting another species into decline.