Tara Stoinski Returns (primatologist)
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What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, experts on expert. I'm Dak Shepard and I'm joined by Monica Padman. Hi. And today we have returning primatologist Tara Stoinski. She is the CEO and chief scientific officer of the Diane Fossey Gorilla Fund. And she worked closely on this incredible documentary that I saw, really importantly by the director of My Octopus Teacher.
Yeah.
And Chimp Empire.
Yeah.
Maybe my favorite animal doc I've ever seen. And this new documentary is called A Gorilla Story. And there's the most insane footage in it. What they captured over these couple years they were filming is incredible. It's so good. She's so knowledgeable. And, you know, these are highly endangered, beautiful treasures on planet Earth. So if you're inclined, please go to the Diane Fossey Gorilla Fund and support that. Please enjoy Tara Stoinski.
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How are you? Good. Hi, Monica. Nice to meet you. In person. Yes, in person.
Hi, welcome. Thank you so much.
Yes.
Thrilled to be here in this amazing space.
Where did you travel from?
Atlanta.
You said Rwanda.
No, not Rwanda. I was there a couple weeks ago, but no, came from Atlanta this time.
What part of Atlanta? You know, Monica's in Atlanta.
Yes, we discussed it last time.
How did Tara Stoinski become involved in the documentary 'A Gorilla Story'?
I'm from outside Philly, but I've been in Atlanta for 30 plus years.
You sound like Monica's mom. Really? Yes. You don't hear it?
Oh my God, I don't hear it.
You gotta listen for it.
I got some combination of like the Philly, Atlanta accent or something. Oh my gosh. I don't hear it at all. But you know, you can't like hear your mom. No. Your mom's just a mom.
Your mom's not an entity. She's just, yeah, yeah.
You can't even hear yourself. I can remember back in the days of answering machines.
Yes.
One time, like, playing an answering machine, and there was this person like, hey. It was, like, for my husband, boyfriend at the time probably. And they're like, hey, honey, how you doing? Wondering what you're doing later. I'm like, who is this woman calling ahead with me?
Oh, my God.
I just totally didn't recognize my own voice.
Oh, my God, that's funny.
I don't know if you're like this. I can't go back and listen to anything I've done. I went and listened to our last podcast, so I wouldn't like repeat myself. But it was painful for me. And then I was like, oh, there's a transcript. I could just read it and not have to listen to myself. We have to.
We have to get used to it at some point.
I started doing that. I listened to like a third of it. So we wouldn't repeat ourselves. It was Zoom. But I was like, I didn't like Zoom. I mean, as much as it was lovely.
It's so different.
It's so different. I'm speaking in that one as if you are on the other end of a soup can and a string. I'm like, uh, I know. Like, I'm shouting at Forterra. Yes. And I was like, I can't do this. And who cares if I repeat myself?
Yeah. Because maybe some people who haven't heard the first one need some background.
So, okay, so you're in Atlanta. Are you in a suburb by Miami?
No, I am just east of downtown, so Grant Park, like right near the zoo. You're in a cooler area. It's great because I'm super convenient to the airport, which is where I feel like I spend a lot of my time.
A lot of your time. Yeah. How old are your daughters now?
So my daughters now are 19 and 17. Oh, my Lord. So I have one in college. She's a sophomore in college. And the other one, we are deciding in the next, she's deciding in the next few weeks where she'll be at college.
What is the significance of gorilla social structures?
May I suggest?
That's great tuition.
She got into Georgia, which we were thrilled about. It's so fun. Got into tech. Less fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Better school? Probably considered better.
Through science-y.
In certain areas.
Like engineering. Mainly engineering. I'm a tech grad, so I have to go for tech. But she, from the start, has been like, I really want to go out of state. With our whole family being from the Northeast. So I don't think she's going to end up in Northeastern. Okay, well.
Well, good for her.
She's a homebody, too. She's going to end up back there. So we'll see.
And how does the 19-year-old like college?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–1:41
2
How did Tara Stoinski become involved in the documentary 'A Gorilla Story'?
1:41–3:37
3
What is the significance of gorilla social structures?
3:37–5:18
4
How do early life experiences affect gorilla behavior?
5:18–50:04
5
What unique insights do gorillas provide about human society?
50:04–50:18
6
How do gorillas and chimps differ in social structures?
50:18–51:19
7
What role does tourism play in gorilla conservation?
51:19–52:03
8
How can understanding gorilla behavior inform human social dynamics?
52:03–1:35:04