Tara Stoinski

So the red colobus monkeys there have declined by 90%, primarily because they're more efficient hunters.

They're like on the level of wild dogs in terms of how well they hunt and coordination and everything.

Because gorillas are vegetarians.

Occasionally they eat an ant.

You saw them eat ants.

They don't even know how to eat them right.

I'm like, can you just get a stick?

Super biting ants.

Like it really hurts when they bite you.

I'm like, just go get a stick.

Be like a chimp, get a stick, eat it the proper way.

Go fishing.

So we can publish that and everyone will love them because they are good tool users in captivity, but they don't need to out there.

When you live in a huge salad bowl, there's not much you need tools for, so they just don't do it.

The chimp people make fun of them all the time for being stupid because they don't use tools.

Yeah, Coco, yep.

Is she our only example?

I mean, I think she was the only one that it was done with.

I don't think there were others that were in the sign language program, but yeah, she did.

They have pets?