Te Ururoa Flavell

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The Mike Hosking Breakfast · Te Ururoa Flavell: Former Te Pāti Māori Co-Leader on Mariameno Kapa-Kingi forming her own political party to contest the election · 11 May 2026 podcast

Well, it doesn't necessarily sit with Māori MPs as well.

It happens in mainstream parties.

But, I mean, you know, in this particular case, she had pretty much not too many options, being ostracised in a sense by the party, albeit the court case went in her favour.

So she didn't have too many choices, but she sort of tried that hook of the Taitokero, which may well sort of give her a hand.

And there's an element of hope because, you know,

One or two parties could be the difference at the next election, but on the other hand, as you say, history is pretty much against the small parties, in particular those who are sort of wrapped around one individual.

It just doesn't happen in Māori politics.

Has she got any standing in the electorate or not?

I think she has, but the downside is she's got two other MPs, current MPs, Hulana Linton, as well as Willow-Jean Prime, and Māori Party haven't selected their candidate yet, so you've got four, probably women,

all who know each other, all probably related to each other, all want the same for our people.

They're just coming under a different political banner, and history says that probably when it gets to these sorts of situations, our people will go back to mothership, since they're Labour.

Labour and see what happens for another three years and then who knows what's going to happen after that.

Well, that's true, but it's all about numbers, as you know, and it could be if it's very tight and polls go up and down, but if it's very tight, just one or two parties could make the difference.

Small parties could make the difference.

In fact,

one or two individuals.

I mean, as my experience was, we had two MPs.

National Party just needed that guarantee to get them over the line to have stable government.

They asked myself and one other to be in there.

So, you know, just two individuals to make one hell of a difference as to whether you're going to be the government of the day.

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