Terry Glavin
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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Well, it is essentially an investigation of the state of anti-Semitism in Canada. And I spent quite a bit of time and effort on this, 16 in-depth interviews, maybe another 16 interviews. not so in-depth interviews, a lot of research, a lot of time and trouble trying to get this sorted.
And I think part of Barry's motivation was that she was sort of vaguely, dimly aware that something very, very unseemly was occurring in Canada. And she and I knew one another. We were kind of chummy. And I've covered, I've been sort of interested and concerned about anti-Semitism for about 20, 25 years now, actually, for reasons we might discuss.
And so she said, well, it looks like Glavin's the guy to do this story. So I did this story. And it's about 6,700 words long. It's a very deep investigation. And it has attracted a heck of a lot of attention. Unfortunately, it doesn't make Canada look very good. I wrote this primarily for an American audience.
I found Americans, God bless them, they haven't the faintest idea what's happening in Canada. They have an idea of Canada. embedded in their brains, and it's really hard to shake them from it. Canada is not the place that you will find in Michael Moore documentaries. Canada is not the place that you'll find in any aspect of American media, actually, particularly over the last 10 years.
It's changed.
Yeah, what is particularly concerning is that Canadian Jews are almost universally disconsolate, dejected, afraid, alienated, isolated, and they feel very strongly in the main that their government is not protecting them. That's because their government isn't protecting them. Yeah, they might be onto something. They might be, all right.
And I think, I mean, for people to understand this phenomenon, this thing that... that kind of burst into the consciousness of most Canadians on the 8th of October, immediately after the Simchat Torah pogrom, the atrocities undertaken by Hamas in Southern Israel at the Supernova Music Festival in the Kibbutzim around the Gaza envelope. Immediately afterwards, the event was celebrated.
actually celebrated and Hamas was praised and this was characterized as a great act of heroic resistance against the illegitimate colonial settler state of Israel and We saw this from one end of the country to the other City after city day after day week after week And what we have seen in the year and a bit since that day, a 670% increase in anti-Semitic incidents, give or take.
It depends on how you add it up. I mean, a lot of Jews don't even bother to call the cops anymore. There's no point. We've seen drive-by shootings at Jewish schools. We've seen synagogues firebombed. We've seen one synagogue in Toronto has been attacked half a dozen times in a few weeks. We've seen Jewish businesses smashed, their windows smashed.
Jewish neighborhoods, you know, throngs of anti-Zionist protesters in their neighborhoods.
Yeah, it's, there is my own, I've come to the conclusion that there's very little distinction that you can draw between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. People will have all kinds of complaints about Israel. God bless them. The Israelis do. all kinds of complaints about their own government.
And I think also it is complicated by, since October 7th, the very real, deep anguish and suffering that is being endured by the people of Gaza. I think it's very, very, very important to... notice this and to be able to talk about it. And one of the things that was really difficult for me to get at in my piece is that that's almost an impossible conversation for ordinary, decent people to have.
Because as soon as you begin to discuss various policy prescriptions that might be useful in getting aid and comfort to the suffering of the people of Gaza, the conversation is immediately taken over.
by a vast constituency of opinion that uses the suffering of Palestinians, sometimes imagined, but quite often real, to weaponize, weaponizing that suffering to the purpose of a deep and fanatical ideological commitment to the destruction of the state of Israel and to driving the Jews into the sea. So, you know, whether you're a Jew or a Gentile, that conversation is almost impossible to have.
And, yeah, I think, you know, most people associate anti-Semitism, I think, with, you know, sort of skinheads, people who... understand their lineage from the Nazis or whatever. That has not been a phenomenon in Canada for a long, long, long time. And there is something that has taken its place. Far and away, anti-Semitism in Canada is what you might call a left-wing phenomenon.
You know what, afterwards you should send it to me.
The whole diversity, equity, and inclusion phenomenon, there's absolutely no room for the Jews there. It's impossible.
You mean American Jews? Well, I'm going to talk about Canadian Jews. Things are a little weird in the United States. And I mean, I think I can understand a lot of the intellectual community, the strata in the United States, you know, finding Donald Trump vulgar and repugnant. And that's why a lot of Jews, I think, didn't vote for him.
The Israelis, interestingly... supported Trump more than a Kamala Harris presidency. Mm-hmm. You know, they kind of went, oh, yeah, well, you know, I'd like to admit it, but I hope Trump wins.
I think other people have used the term cultural Marxism, which kind of, you know, it certainly borrows the language of Marxism and borrows the language of the left, but of course replaces the proletariat, the working class. is replaced by this kind of, you know, rainbow coalition, ethnic, racial, and gender subsets and subgroups.
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