Terry Kirby
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first heard Dec 2025
last heard 20 Dec
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I'm sure you may discover similar things in Australia.
Well, I mean, specifically, the Stephen Lawrence case was seen by Paul Dacre, who was then the editor of the Daily Mail, as something... He saw it as a good cause.
There's no question about that.
But it was convenient that he...
It was something to hold up against the critics of the Daily Mail, who often accused it of both implied and obvious racism and discrimination against the black community in the UK and elsewhere.
I mean, and the Daily Mail is still very much at the forefront of that, highlighting stories about crimes by asylum seekers in the UK and so forth.
And I remember a former colleague of mine who did some work for the Daily Mail and she was sent out to report on a, she was sent out for a kind of night with the police on the beach somewhere in London as a sort of feature film.
type piece.
And she was told...
or it was made clear to her that they were really only interested in stories about asylum seekers committing or immigrants of some kind committing crimes in the story.
They weren't really interested in kind of routine kind of violence or crimes of any kind, but anything involving immigrants or people of color, as it were, would be the story.
and that was relatively recently, within the last 10 years.
The Daily Mail... So the Justice for Stephen Lawrence case was something they could hold up against people who would criticise them for that kind of tone towards black people.
I mean, the Daily Mail has always got an overwhelmingly white...
lower middle middle class audience in the uk as as i'm sure you know we're all obsessed by class in the uk um and the daily mail does define that class it's sort of it's sort of suburban uh communities market towns again a lot of places that up until recently would not have had
many people from ethnic minority backgrounds, immigrant backgrounds, and so forth, or even asylum seekers housed in hotels, which does happen now in some places.
So that was very much the Daily Mail's audience.
so to pick up on this case of an inner city murder of a young black man was quite dramatic for the Daily Mail but it was a case that needed highlighting there's no question about that I can't there aren't many other examples that come to happen of the Daily Mail or other tabloid newspapers taking up the cudgel in quite the same way
This served the Daily Mail very well at a particular time.
And Dacre admits that it was something that, you know, at the point he thought, what have I done?
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