Tessa Fleming

Just remind us what happened.

Well, I think it was fair to say Michael came out on top, maybe over that.

But over the years, his brother Danny has courted controversy as well, particularly with his views when it comes to climate change.

And this goes right back to his first days in the Dáil in 2016.

And he came under fire for his contribution to a climate change debate.

So what did he have to say about that?

Well, John, going back to 2007, Michael Healy-Ray, he was then a counsellor in Kerry, but he won a reality show on RTE.

It was called Celebrities Go Wild.

It was set in Connemara, eight celebrities on a week-long trek.

Now, he emerged as the ultimate winner, having received the largest number of votes from the viewing public.

John, why did that become a source of controversy?

Some of the Healy Ray children have been in the spotlight as well.

And particularly Michael's two sons, when they find themselves in court.

What happened there?

Gerry, I suppose over the years, just listening to the various memorable moments and controversies that some of the Healy Rays have been involved with over the years, I mean, they have provided us with a fair share of entertainment going right down through the years.

But on the other side of that, I mean, the Healy Rays have huge support in Kerry.

And I'm just wondering, your reading of the situation, the fallout of the fuel protests, the resignation, has that support in Kerry for the Healy Rays, has that been affected at all?

Well, Joe and Gerry talking there about the next election and speculating as to who could run and whether they'd run against each other and all of that.

What are your thoughts on whether or not we're likely to see Michael Healy-Ray and his son Jackie replacing brothers Michael and Danny?

Is that on the cards?