The Undertaker

And of all people to give me that idea was the nicest guy in the world, which was Ricky Steamboat.

The dragon.

Yeah, he came up and he says, he goes, hey, you ever thought about this?

And I was like, that's genius.

So, you know...

Some guys, they need help in that development, and then other guys just take that ball and they just kind of go down that rabbit hole and figure out, okay, how am I going to make this my own?

And that's the key to being successful.

You can have the greatest idea, the greatest look, but if you don't make it your own,

These people are here, they're not gonna buy it.

And they're not gonna invest in it.

So that's the key.

Um, yeah, but you always want to have your thumb on what it is that's reaching your audience.

You know, and that becomes, it becomes difficult.

Like, when you do get behind the scenes, you have to remember

that you're not necessarily creating for yourself anymore, right?

So you're creating for the masses, so you have to not only be able to take, okay, well, this is what I like.

Okay, well, that might be great, but that's only going to affect like 20% of these people.

You have to be able to get your fingers out there and make it a net and get everybody what everybody wants to enjoy.

So it's a pretty difficult process to do.

through your Six Foot Under podcast, that platform, how has that allowed you to engage with your fan base on a different level than say, you know, you going, you know, doing something like this because they get an opportunity to see you in a totally different light than what they've ever seen you before.