Thomas Massey

Like if there is hope,

And I know I'm giving people hope, and this is one of the reasons I'm fighting so hard to win, is there will be not tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, if not several million people who lose hope if I lose.

But what gives me hope, and frankly, what gives me even more religious conviction is that we, in spite of all the odds,

We got this bill passed and it became law and 3 million documents came out after we had been lied to and told that everything but kiddie porn had been released.

Did she ever explain?

I think she was largely in the dark most of the time.

I always have a question.

Is it ignorance or is it malfeasance, right?

Right.

When something's doing the wrong thing.

On her part, I think it was ignorance and blind allegiance.

I think when she released those binders, she really thought she was releasing the Epstein files.

I believe she thought that.

And then she found out very quickly, somebody came and told her, oh, no, no, we're not releasing those.

You're not gonna do that.

And then she had to adopt blind allegiance without even, in fact, really, at one point she said, they're on my desk for review.

Do you remember that?

Very well.

How do 3 million files sit on your desk?

They were not on her desk for review at any point.