McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
Yeah, I had a slightly different path.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
I'm a little bit atypical in that I knew what I wanted to do from the time I was 15 years old.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
I wanted to be a hospital administrator, which is a really geeky sort of thing to do at the end of the day, right?
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
But I never wanted to get into academic medicine, and the reason for that is I grew up in a really small town, and the local hospital administrator took an active interest in me, and she was a fascinating leader and
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
Very powerful woman and someone who I'll never forget.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
Had a big impact on my career.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
I had to do an undergraduate internship, and I worked in a small 200-bed non-teaching hospital.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
But then coming out of graduate school, we had to do an internship, and I interviewed at 10 or 11 places.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
I read the theses of the previous students where they did their administrative residencies and those that did them in non-academic medical centers.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
And what I found is people who went to the academic medical centers had a very narrow slice of something that they were responsible for.
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Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
And I didn't want to get lost in the complexity of a very large, complicated organization where I wouldn't have an opportunity for a breadth of experience.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
So I chose to go into the non-academic world to begin with, thinking that I could always work my way up, which is ultimately what happened.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
You know, what everybody talked about today, and it's going to resolve around one issue if we can ever figure it out, and that's culture.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
And I must tell you, everything that I heard today was consumerism, consumerism, consumerism, consumerism.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
Academic medical centers are not designed to be consumer-centric.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
So what I find to be the most challenging is changing a culture that has been ingrained and taught for over 100 years.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
Now, people are very responsive, and we've made terrific progress.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
But there's always some challenge in an academic medical center because you try to balance the tripartite mission of research, teaching, and clinical care.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
So to your question specifically, we put something in place about six or seven years ago.
McKinsey on Healthcare
Role of academic-based health systems: An interview with Catherine Jacobson and Thomas Zenty
It's an acronym called CARTS.