Thorsten Ball

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I'm not gonna name my internal title, but I'm uh the dictator of AMP.
Yeah, that's uh that's the internal title.
Yeah.
But uh it's it's um yeah I'm the lead engineer and one of the creators of AMP.
I mean, I'll start, you can jump in, but basically I came back to SoftScript February, and then this was when Cloud 3537 happened too.
And then Quinn and I started hacking on, you know, what if we just take Cloud 37 and what if we give it just tools and let it go nuts, you know, like no constraints, no um a lot of the other stuff that we had in Kodi, which works for Kodi.
To start trying this out, and we started a new project.
And we were, you know, I remember first weekend SF where I would stand up in the middle of the room, like Quinn, you gotta you gotta see this.
You know?
Like, this is crazy.
And then he was like, Okay, let me try this.
And then we went off from there, and then we realized relatively quickly that it's a different kind of product where Cody was very much first of its kind with Rack and assistant.
Panels, assistant sidebar, but with you know a tool calling agent, where I define an agent as a model, a system prompt, and tools and tool prompts that go along with this, that you give a lot of permissions for.
So it can actually see the file system, interact with the file system, or your editor.
It's a different thing.
And we realized we gotta handle this differently.
We gotta reset expectations, we gotta tell users that it's a different thing.
And they gotta use it differently in some sense and also that we cannot make it work with a twenty dollar subscription, which back then was seen as a you know offensive thing to say.
And now they're charging.
exactly.
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