Thorsten Ball

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Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast · Amp: The Emperor Has No Clothes · 25 Sep 2025 podcast

Let me put this back in the linear thing.

I uh maybe, you know, if you phrase it like this and automate it like this and it's always a perfect conversation, maybe it works.

But I think in this case you still have to be mindful of the context.

And what we encourage users to do, for example, in AMP is to start a lot of small threads and be really

you know, do context engineering and s be really strict about what goes into context and what doesn't.

And

The other thing that I think touches this on is, you know, where a lot of CLI tools, for example, have super verbose output and Basil for it to call this out.

I'm not a big Basil fan, but you could just call Basil out, super verbose output.

So then the natural assumption is, oh, let's hide this from the user.

You know, like let's let's abstract this away and summarize the output or whatever or or whatever, just the exit code or something.

And

And then you get into this dangerous territory where what you see is what you get is not true anymore.

And in the context, what you see is like some other thing in the context, and that can lead to issues.

But for me, the meta thing here too is everything is changing.

That means we're seeing this CLI tools right now are also adopting to being used by agents.

So they're changing their output too.

So if you focus on the fact that Basil will

Always be robust and build something for this issue, you might be outdated in half a year where somebody is like, No, no, no, we have a basel agent wrapper and now this is not an issue anymore.

Yeah.

And I mean you've seen this, I'm sure, where a lot of users are going through this lesson where they, Let me just add this MCP server that does everything I wanted to do and then two days later

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