Thorsten Ball

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488 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Sep 2025 last heard Sep 2025

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Just UI so at a glance you can see I don't know what it is yet, but at a first glance so you can see what the agent actually did without having to go and read through like the emoji summary, finally we have it and blah blah blah.
Stuff like this.
But to come back to like your question of like the outer loop, I think, and you know, if Biang was here, he would talk for a long time about this because he's passionate about it that the in
Loop has changed a lot in that you know, uh write, test, review, and whatnot.
It's that you now review a lot more code.
And what effects does this have?
For me, for example, we don't do any formal code reviews on the AMP team, but it doesn't mean that code isn't reviewed because we use you know AMP to write 80 to 90 percent of our code base.
But that means everybody should review the code that the agent wrote so it's reviewed by at least one person.
person, right?
And that's not reflected at all in GitHub yet.
Like GitHub is still based on this other mode where you tag somebody, but then it's like, well, I actually went through two agents to produce this code and I reviewed it three times.
Do I now tag five other people?
And right now we're stuck in this mode where people would say yes, but I don't think it's gonna hold that much longer.
Yeah, we had this at the at the start a lot where people whenever you have like an AI tool, I think there's a natural uh tendency by engineers to get it in a gotcha moment.
You know, like, oh I asked this and it didn't know this.
Right.
And then it's like, are you trying to get something out of it or are you trying to get it to fail?
And you know, it's not it's not worthwhile to build for somebody who doesn't want to fail.
Two
think the first part is to also answer the other question a little bit is what I've seen become more important or the shift I've seen is that you know I said the triangle um of you know PM designer engineer.
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