Tim Benz

So, like, including those as a loss?

Well, the last three years would be 10-8.

Yeah, usually a team that backs into the postseason and then promptly gets booted right out of it.

Do you trust him and Omar to get the right guy?

You know I'm not really an art fan as an owner, but I have a weird feeling that they could actually hit on this.

Maybe that's because it's all I know.

It's naive of me because the only Steelers I know are the Steelers that have a good head coach, and they have that love for stability.

I also think if they wanted to, if they opened it up for just anybody...

They would have a lot of people clamoring for this job.

I know you and Bob kind of had the back and forth the other day about how attractive is this job.

And does it stack up to maybe what the Ravens can offer?

No, I don't think it's that high.

I think the Ravens having Lamar Jackson makes that very attractive.

They have the shot at it, but the structure otherwise is usually a mess.

I think the reason why the Steelers' job is attractive, it's not the quarterback situation.

It's not the draft position.

It's the fact that the person coming in here knows, well, these guys will let me get my feet wet.

I can't be terrible the whole time, but you're not going to find a place more stable than Pittsburgh.

What's your plan?

That's a big reason why I lean on the offensive side when you look for who your next head coach is going to be.