Tim Dodd

And that's how the, you know, the military works.

It's like, we don't necessarily, when you're pushing the boundaries, you don't necessarily know how much something's going to cost.

You might have a rough idea, but you'll run into so many, like, you're going to run into a lot of problems.

You're going to run into a lot of like, we had no idea this was going to cost us much, or this took four times longer.

So we had to employ these people, you know, for four more years or whatever.

So that's Cost Plus.

Famously, then, the reason that SpaceX is kind of well-known and how they work with NASA is NASA started doing the commercial crew program and the commercial resupply contracts.

So they basically said, hey, we have a fixed amount of money.

If you can, we'll sign a couple people up to try to, you know, if you can send crew and cargo up to the International Space Station, we'll give you this amount of money, but no more.

So if you can't do it for that amount of money, you're going to lose money.

A pretty, you know, pretty...

It seems like a no brainer.

It's on you.

It's still can.

And it really, you know, it gets competitive.

And, and one of the reasons then that, so, so SpaceX won, was it $3 billion for the, for the commercial crew program and Boeing received almost double that or almost $5 billion.

Whoa.

And SpaceX launched their first crew in 2020.

And it was two, their names were Bob and Doug.

They flew in 2020.