Tim Ferriss

really I'm gonna pay like whatever it is 500 bucks 1500 bucks to have some guy give me a mantra and I have to give him flowers are you fucking kidding me and he's like you can afford it I was just like and you're like really he's like look at yourself and I was like all right fine so I started doing TM which was actually an incredibly good investment and the money matters why because you don't want to lose that money

and you have the accountability.

So you're actually gonna do it.

Secondly, I started thinking about a re-entry into the playing field of psychedelics.

And I was like, all right, if I'm gonna do it, now that I know how to read research properly, and I have access, I was living in the Bay Area, I'm like, I am in the epicenter in North America for exploring this type of thing.

I'm gonna do it in a really conservative, step-by-step buildup,

leading to but not committed to potentially ayahuasca and so just thought about how to structure it safely you know interviewed for lack of a better term like i was hiring for a job different facilitators had people help me with the vetting got reference checks i got you know i really went over the top because that experience in the middle of the street had

rightfully scared the hell out of me.

Like, I could have very easily been hit by a car.

And it's like, bad things do happen.

Like, people jump out of windows.

Like, I hate to say it, but like, those things do happen.

So I wanted as many safeguards as possible.

And so that was sort of starting in, let's call it,

2011, 2012 was the re-entry onto the playing field.

Right on, man.

Yeah.

But being much more, much more methodical about the whole thing.

I wouldn't identify as anything from an organized religion perspective.

Oh, good.