Tim Ferriss

So, in my case, I volunteered for a number of startup nonprofits, like the Silicon Valley Association of Startup Entrepreneurs, the Indus Entrepreneur, which Sriram would know, past guest.

Really nice, brilliant guy.

The Indus Entrepreneur almost wholly focused on the Indian diaspora and entrepreneurship around that, right?

And, like, the numbers of...

of amazing entrepreneurs who come out of India, who have chosen to come to the US.

Just unbelievable, right?

I'm not Indian, as you might have guessed.

But I would go there and be like, hey, I'll do anything.

I'll fill water, I'll punch tickets, I'll rearrange chairs.

I just want to be in the room with these speakers, right?

And as a volunteer, if you do more than someone asks you to do,

you're going to get noticed by the people running the event.

You don't have to do very much, but I would just do a lot more than they asked me to do.

And eventually they're like, hey, do you want to help organize one of these events?

Like, we're not getting paid.

We have a day job.

Like, do you want to help?

I'm like, can I?

I would love to, but really what I like to do is at least organize the speakers.

They're like, sure.