Tim Ferriss

And I was like, oh, this is bad.

This could be really bad.

let's try to preserve as much optionality as possible.

We're leaving now."

So I end up in Costa Rica, and we're sitting there having a meal, and somehow this came up, because she knew about it.

There were two girlfriends, like, long-term, long, long-term girlfriends.

As I was mentioning earlier, when you're, like, cauterized and compartmentalized, like,

there are a lot of relationship costs.

So there's a... It works up to a point, and then you hit a wall, and suddenly it doesn't work.

And so with these girlfriends who are, you know, three, four, five, six years, right?

There was a point where I shared with these two women specifically, I guess it was three long-term girlfriends, about the abuse.

And this one girlfriend, I was talking about writing the book, and she's like, you know we're sitting in the middle of COVID.

She's like, have you ever thought about how many people are going to...

die of natural or unnatural causes before you ever write that book.

Like, it's gonna be 10 years?

15 years?

She was like, why don't you do a podcast?

And I was like... Because I don't want to talk to my parents, I don't want to talk to my friends, like... It's too vulnerable.

It's too vulnerable.

But ultimately... I had had a friend, Debbie Millman, amazing human being, incredible graphic artist, teacher,