Tim Ferriss

And I don't know exactly where that comes from.

I think it was just suspecting that there was, on some level, I think,

Researchers like Donald Hoffman, he's a buck and bronco.

He could have one.

But there was always part of me that kind of suspected that this was what we're looking at here and experiencing.

It's like a user interface.

It's like a desktop on a computer where it's like, okay, we have these icons and so on that represent something.

but that this is just one interface, right?

If we were a mantis shrimp or a different animal, like, it wouldn't look or feel like this, right?

So this is a reality, but it's not the end-all, be-all objective reality.

I always just had that feeling.

And you can explore that through a purely scientific...

physicalist lens, right?

You don't have to get out there.

You don't have to be running around the full moon swinging a dead cat over your head with a hawk wing, right?

Like, you don't have to get into pure Wu territory to ask some questions about things.

And then I would say later,

I was always interested in mythology.

And my mom got me this crazy book, I think it was on the remainder table, called A Lycanthropy Reader.

And A Lycanthropy Reader was a historical collection of essays on the mythology and belief of shape-shifting.