Tim Ferriss

or, you know, three-letter acronym funding.

They also had money, I want to say, from, like, SRI International to use sort of computational and quantitative measures to study things like telekinesis, remote viewing, et cetera.

And literally, that had been started by, I want to say, Professor John, J-A-H-N, I believe it was.

And somebody should fact-check this, but I'm getting pretty close.

I think he was the former dean of the...

engineering department or engineering quadrangle.

And one of his post, not postdocs, but one of his grad students had looked at human influence on random number generators.

And he was like, really?

He was like, he's like, look, if you want to waste your time on this, it's not going to help you with anything.

Like, it looks like a terrible idea to me.

And then when all the data came back, he was like,

Okay.

And ultimately became so interested that he spearheaded this engineering anomalies research laboratory.

And I wanted to know what the hell they had figured out.

I wanted to get a read on what they felt like they had figured out.

And this is a... I mean, this is a high-end...

incredibly credible engineer right this isn't some rando this is someone who was on the far side extreme skeptic end of things who ended up then spearheading this you can still end up with beliefs that you want confirmation for so again right the purpose of the scientific method

which is really a framework for thinking, is to prevent you from fooling yourself.

Right?

But all of those things came together to answer your question.