Tim Ferriss

And I was like, you know what, I think all of these things, if for the moment we provisionally say that maybe some of those phenomena have something to them, right, in the anomalies research laboratory,

Even if you exclude that, psychedelics, lucid dreaming, certain types of like religious experience that I'd read about, I was like, I feel like there's a possibility these are all touching like the hem of the same garment.

Mm-hmm.

And perhaps that's all internally generated.

Maybe it's like a...

temporal lobe epilepsy, kind of seizure.

Like, when you look back at a lot of scripture, it's like, hmm, that sounds a lot like seizure.

But does that invalidate it?

I don't know.

Like, some of the most creative people we've ever known have also had something very similar.

So it's like, all right, all of it meant, like,

I want to know what the hell is going on in here, if that is even possible.

How do you even study it?

It's like three pounds of fat sitting in this skull.

What do you even do to study that?

So, I mean, all of those things, I would say, catalyzed it then.

went pretty hard in the paint with all of that for a while.

And then, since I had no, certainly no training, my friends and I had no training in how to structure psychedelic experiences, and I had a terrifying experience of coming out of a mushroom psychedelic experience in the middle of the night because my asshole friends, it was the three of us,

had wandered off on some like hike and i was left alone in a house and i started looping because i was on a bear i'm sure we weren't even measuring doses at the time but i'm sure it was in retrospect i would say it's probably like six to eight grams of dried philosophy mushrooms which is a lot for people who don't know and so i was looping looping looping wandered over to my parents house my and my friends like you definitely didn't go over there and then the next day my mom's like big night huh and i was like what do you mean

So that was already a problem, right?