Tim Grover

Because it's easy to talk about the setbacks because so many people can relate to that. That gave us a nice little comfort thing. Everybody can use the pandemic as an excuse. And then you have other people that thrive during that time. They're like, I got to find out a new way to win. I got to find out like a real, real new way to win.

Because it's easy to talk about the setbacks because so many people can relate to that. That gave us a nice little comfort thing. Everybody can use the pandemic as an excuse. And then you have other people that thrive during that time. They're like, I got to find out a new way to win. I got to find out like a real, real new way to win.

And you had some people that really, really won big during that time. Absolutely. They stepped up. They stepped up. Yes. They stepped up. They saw the steps. And I was like, okay. Are these steps stable? Are they unstable? It doesn't matter. I gotta climb them. I gotta climb them.

And you had some people that really, really won big during that time. Absolutely. They stepped up. They stepped up. Yes. They stepped up. They saw the steps. And I was like, okay. Are these steps stable? Are they unstable? It doesn't matter. I gotta climb them. I gotta climb them.

Continue to work like a maniacal individual on what you want.

Continue to work like a maniacal individual on what you want.

Prove it to yourself. We have so many other individuals that are trying to prove it to everybody else. Don't worry about proving it to everybody else. Prove it to yourself.

Prove it to yourself. We have so many other individuals that are trying to prove it to everybody else. Don't worry about proving it to everybody else. Prove it to yourself.

You just gave an example. Yeah. You're one of your closest friends.

You just gave an example. Yeah. You're one of your closest friends.

Man, that's a terrible name. That's a terrible name. All right. Prove yourself right. Yeah. Don't prove him wrong. Right. Say, okay, I'm going to go do this for me, whether you like it or not. Right. And the best validation is when they come back to you and say, I was wrong. That's the best validation.

Man, that's a terrible name. That's a terrible name. All right. Prove yourself right. Yeah. Don't prove him wrong. Right. Say, okay, I'm going to go do this for me, whether you like it or not. Right. And the best validation is when they come back to you and say, I was wrong. That's the best validation.

You know? Yes. Normalcy. Right, right. Whatever it would have been. Yeah. Whatever it would have been.

You know? Yes. Normalcy. Right, right. Whatever it would have been. Yeah. Whatever it would have been.

It's perfect. You look at when Kobe, his first playoff series, How old was he in his first one? It was early in his career.

It's perfect. You look at when Kobe, his first playoff series, How old was he in his first one? It was early in his career.

I'm talking about before he won the finals.

I'm talking about before he won the finals.

In the playoffs. I think he had this. No Shaq. Pre-Shaq. Yeah. He had this horrible game against, I think it might have been the Utah Jazz. I can't remember. But he shot like four or five straight air balls. I remember that. Yeah. Four or five straight air balls. All right. Now, he could have came back next year and said, I got to prove everybody that's a man. You're too young. Why did you take?

In the playoffs. I think he had this. No Shaq. Pre-Shaq. Yeah. He had this horrible game against, I think it might have been the Utah Jazz. I can't remember. But he shot like four or five straight air balls. I remember that. Yeah. Four or five straight air balls. All right. Now, he could have came back next year and said, I got to prove everybody that's a man. You're too young. Why did you take?