Tim Miller

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Even if they're unsuccessful in my treatment, that they will have learned from my treatment that will be able to allow others to stand on my shoulders to be able to be helped.

Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast.

I'm your host, Tim Miller.

Delighted to welcome back to the show, former political director for Barack Obama.

He also was ambassador to South Africa and an informal advisor to New York City's mayor-elect, Zoran Mamdani.

It's Patrick Gaspard.

How you doing, man?

I'm good, man.

Thank you for putting out my hit list there.

Oh, yeah.

Well, the people need to know your resume.

All right.

People need to know that you're legit.

We have news to do, but I need to start with this.

We had breakfast a couple months ago when I was in New York, and I learned that your family is a nickname for me.

And I've never felt whiter in my life than hearing your family's nickname.

So I do want you to share it with the people.

It requires context.