Tim Miller

And you read the story and it's just like a clown show of absurdity.

J.D.

Vance is like, maybe we should have Tucker interview Ghislaine Maxwell.

I mean, like all of these ideas are just preposterous.

But the whole conversation, as it's framed in the story, is about the propaganda.

You know, and that is a parallel I do see here with the Epstein story and with the Iranians, with many other stories of this administration.

Right.

It's like there was no conversation about, oh, hey, maybe we should try to find accountability for the victims.

And maybe that will help us with our PR.

That topic never seems to come up.

They don't care at all about that.

And all administrations exaggerate.

All administrations spin.

But there is an emptiness to this that puts them in this space where it really is all just propaganda in service of their corruption and authoritarian powers that I think is a meaningful difference from what we've seen in the past.

And the people can't really know what truth is, right?

Like this is like a post-truth strategy, right?

Which is people can know what they're experiencing, right?

And this is why I think that the gas price thing was hurting them in particular, right?

Because like people all of a sudden saw a tangible difference.

But like beyond that, it's like people don't know what's happening in Iran, really, right?