Tim Miller

And we have an OMB director who helped design Project 2025, who seems to be running all the domestic policy in this country.

And then you have a bunch of former Fox talking heads who are in other really important policy spaces and who are just kind of hectoring the media, not being transparent to the American people and demonstrating that they're woefully unqualified for the positions that they have.

I think Pete Hexup comes to mind there.

So it's just

Sure.

Sean Duffy.

Did you ever hang out with Bobby?

Were you guys ever in the NGO world?

Actually, I did.

Don, I wish you didn't ask me about this because it's kind of a painful, difficult thing to think about.

I did.

I spent a fair amount of time with him when I was director of policy and politics for a CIU, Service Employees International Union.

And many of our members cared about what was happening in New York State with its ecology and our waters being polluted.

And we found ourselves in extraordinary partnership with Robert Kennedy when he was helping to lead the river keepers and he was going after polluters, litigating against them.

I will never, ever forget Tim.

Being three feet away from Robert Kennedy when he delivered one of the most extraordinary talks I ever saw.

He was in a room, thousands of low wage workers, low wage workers, folks who are like breaking their backs to put food on the table for their kids, but who cared about environmental issues.

And they gathered to hear Bobby Kennedy talk about the environment, about river keepers, about this blessing that we had in the world that we had to protect.

And he gave this 45-minute set of remarks extemporaneously, no notes in front of him, hardly a pause between paragraphs that was so inspired, that so lifted everybody up in their core and got our membership to go out there and to march, to advocate with their Congress members, to do a thing to protect the ecology.

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