Tim Miller

Like what, how, what's happening right now?

He's been a little more quiet.

He's given speeches.

There've been some reports that said he didn't want to do it, but then he also said, if we do do it, we should go maximalist, which is like a pretty incoherent view.

If it's true, I don't know.

Like what's your political sense?

What's happening?

It's kind of funny, like a lot of us were telling people like me and Nicole Wallace right there telling people that Trump 2.0 will be worse.

Yeah, it's going to have all these other people.

Well, worse from your perspective.

From our perspective, that's what I'm saying.

For the true believers, the magnet types will all be in there.

Like that was our framework of it as well.

It's just like you thought it was a good thing.

We thought it was a bad thing.

I'm trying to reclaim both the words liberal and neocon.

These guys are hawks.

This is a war hawk war.

They're not even claiming that they're trying to get democracy.

You might have been able to sell me on Venezuela if we were putting Machado in there.