Tim Miller

Gavin Newsom, your governor, you live in California, had a contrary view on how they should handle it.

I want to play that.

Kneepads for world leaders.

What do you think about that?

Interesting soundbite.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's obviously the right move domestically.

This is more in your wheelhouse now.

I actually don't know what your day job is these days.

Are you doing CEO advising anymore?

Is that in your remit?

Yeah, so one of these guys calls you.

I don't know, like Bill Kristol, I think, tweeted this yesterday.

He's like, well, not one of these CEOs tell him to fuck off.

And I do wonder, like...

he does back down and he is a bully in that sense, right?

Like the, the, the character analysis that you painted of him, right.

If somebody who responds to flattery, like that's true, but he also does respond to, to a little bit of a sock in the nose.

To me, I have like PTSD from that 2016 primary.

I'm working for Jeb.

Is this just all like a collective action problem where everybody knew that it'd be the best, the best interest for all 15 CEOs to sock him in the nose.