Tim Miller

Not with Trump as president, but if Marco was president and he came to me and said, hey, we'll do this Venezuela gambit and we'll put Machado in there and maybe democracy will flourish in our hemisphere.

Some of my old muscles would have started flaring with that.

That's not what they're doing.

That's not what he's doing.

Well, that's how he's doing.

It's corruption.

It's just like a straight like it's a like it's a shakedown.

Yeah, I mean, that's what it's turned into.

And things go boom.

Well, don't forget.

She is.

This is a hawk jingoist.

You said something in the middle of the rant there about how if anybody trusts Trump or doesn't understand that he's a charlatan, they're stupid.

I'm a little concerned that you impugned most of the people that show up at the rallies right there because if you look at the polls right now... What do you mean?

Look at the polls.

I think parsing the...

The kind of crosstabs, which is there's some limits to that.

But like, if you look at when people ask, like, hey, do you identify as a MAGA Republican?

Do you identify just as a Republican?

Are you an independent Trump voter?