Tim Miller

And I think the nut graph or the nut statement of this was right now, Democrats have no credible path to sustain control of the Senate and the White House.

And

The Democrats need to come up with a way to have sustained control of the Senate and the White House if we're going to brush back this authoritarian movement in the Republican Party.

So talk about that.

Nikki Haley's not walking through that door in 2032.

During the Obama era, Democrats won, either Obama himself or Democratic Senate candidates in Iowa, Indiana, Montana, West Virginia, Arkansas.

With maybe the exception of Mary Peltola in Alaska, I don't see a single Democrat running in 2026 in any of those states who has a meaningfully differentiated brand from the Clinton, Biden, Harris party.

I just don't.

They all seem to be some version of that.

And those candidates weren't competitive in any of those places.

Right.

People get wrapped up in, does that mean doing it in a Bernie style or in a Manchin style or whatever?

But to me, the frustrating part is that I agree with your premise.

And it doesn't feel to me like there are very many people out there saying, no, we need to do something really different, particularly to win in those places, particularly when talking about the Senate.

I wish the Plattner thing was in a different state.

That's in Maine.

Is Tallarico different?

No, I agree.

They obviously don't plan on ever confirming a Democratic justice again.

And just saying the last two successful politicians to remake their party's image, like both ran against the party, your guy in 08 and Trump, like actively against the party.