Tim Miller

Delighted to welcome back to the show a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of The Cruelty is the Point.

It's Adam Sarwar.

How you doing, man?

I'm all right.

How are you doing, Tim?

I'm doing maybe a little better than you.

You kind of seem sad.

You're just all right.

You got allergies.

All right, well, let's get into that.

I was thinking about this before I had you on.

You can kind of see, you get a sense for what's going wrong in the country based on guest frequency.

And it's like, it's not really a great sign for racial and social justice issues that this is my second Adam Serwer visit in the last couple months.

But I do, I appreciate you coming on.

Your latest article on this kind of goes back.

I want to get, I want to spend a lot of time on Tennessee, but I do think it's valuable to take the lens back a little bit.

And you started talking about a character

that only old timers maybe or conservative media obsessives would know about, a guy named James Jackson Kilpatrick.

And why don't you just kind of talk about why you framed up the article about the decision around him and what lessons we can learn from that.

You framed it up nicely in the piece and tying it to the court's decision this way.