Tim Pierce

So there's a kind of lack of humanity and a lack of empathy for men, which runs through all this.

So there's a kind of lack of humanity and a lack of empathy for men, which runs through all this.

I would say, by and large, DEI is alive and kicking over here. I think some of the big companies, where they are US-facing, have pulled back a bit. I think a number of others have doubled down and say, okay, we think this is important. And the institutes and directors over here found that a vast majority of big companies are still running DEI programs.

I would say, by and large, DEI is alive and kicking over here. I think some of the big companies, where they are US-facing, have pulled back a bit. I think a number of others have doubled down and say, okay, we think this is important. And the institutes and directors over here found that a vast majority of big companies are still running DEI programs.

it's still very much alive and kicking in academia. And police forces here and our National Health Service are still insisting on whiteness training, even though all the data shows that these courses backfire. There's a really interesting Harvard professor, Frank Dobbin, who we've been speaking to, who's looked at data sets for 8 million people who've been through DEI courses.

it's still very much alive and kicking in academia. And police forces here and our National Health Service are still insisting on whiteness training, even though all the data shows that these courses backfire. There's a really interesting Harvard professor, Frank Dobbin, who we've been speaking to, who's looked at data sets for 8 million people who've been through DEI courses.

And the studies show that when you run these courses, it actually has a negative effect. It doesn't help women. It doesn't help people from minority backgrounds. Because you're essentially saying to white blokes, hey, by the way, you're all unconsciously racist and you're all privileged. And the natural reaction when someone calls you racist isn't to say, well, God, John, that's a brilliant point.

And the studies show that when you run these courses, it actually has a negative effect. It doesn't help women. It doesn't help people from minority backgrounds. Because you're essentially saying to white blokes, hey, by the way, you're all unconsciously racist and you're all privileged. And the natural reaction when someone calls you racist isn't to say, well, God, John, that's a brilliant point.

I never thought of that. I am so racist. It's to say, well, F you. I don't want to be part of this. So, you know, I go back to the, you know, the original thing being Of course we should tackle discrimination where it exists.

I never thought of that. I am so racist. It's to say, well, F you. I don't want to be part of this. So, you know, I go back to the, you know, the original thing being Of course we should tackle discrimination where it exists.

There are just smarter ways to do that, you know, with mentoring, with work experience, with skills training in companies, not by running these courses, which ultimately are inspired by a cultural form of Marxism and crudely divide the world into oppressed and oppressor. And if you're white and male, you are automatically an oppressor, regardless of what your background is.

There are just smarter ways to do that, you know, with mentoring, with work experience, with skills training in companies, not by running these courses, which ultimately are inspired by a cultural form of Marxism and crudely divide the world into oppressed and oppressor. And if you're white and male, you are automatically an oppressor, regardless of what your background is.

If you could be working class, you could be blue collar, it doesn't matter. And billions, $40 billion or so a year is spent on these courses. And for what? They make things worse for those men to help and they demonize men. But to say this, whoa, you know, look at you, you're a crazy sort of lunatic for even questioning this.

If you could be working class, you could be blue collar, it doesn't matter. And billions, $40 billion or so a year is spent on these courses. And for what? They make things worse for those men to help and they demonize men. But to say this, whoa, you know, look at you, you're a crazy sort of lunatic for even questioning this.

Yeah. So, I mean, you know, really top pollsters here. What they found is, I sort of found quite staggering, really, that almost half of men, 46% of white guys, say they self-censor because it could affect their careers. And this doesn't mean that

Yeah. So, I mean, you know, really top pollsters here. What they found is, I sort of found quite staggering, really, that almost half of men, 46% of white guys, say they self-censor because it could affect their careers. And this doesn't mean that

dying to be racist and they're self-censoring this is these are people who are saying they won't give honest but respectful feedback to a colleague at work um or they won't risk making a joke you know these are guys who are literally sitting on their hands in meetings so they think if i speak out i'm going to be seen as as some sort of boorish white oppressive male um

dying to be racist and they're self-censoring this is these are people who are saying they won't give honest but respectful feedback to a colleague at work um or they won't risk making a joke you know these are guys who are literally sitting on their hands in meetings so they think if i speak out i'm going to be seen as as some sort of boorish white oppressive male um

A third of young guys, 36% of guys under 34, say they've lost out on a promotion or other opportunities because they're white men. So these are young guys, probably in their late 20s, who've maybe only gone for one or two promotions in their life, but they feel that already they're being discriminated against.

A third of young guys, 36% of guys under 34, say they've lost out on a promotion or other opportunities because they're white men. So these are young guys, probably in their late 20s, who've maybe only gone for one or two promotions in their life, but they feel that already they're being discriminated against.