Tim Stenovec

This is a wide body.

So as opposed to the 737, 737 Max, the narrow body.

While we get to our next guest, he's somebody who wears many hats.

Andrew Yang is with us.

He's the founder and CEO of Noble Mobile.

You might know him, though, as former Democratic presidential candidate in the 2020 race.

And in 2021, he made a failed run to be a Democratic nominee for the New York City mayoral race.

He's the founder of the Independent Forward Party, also a bestselling author.

He's often on our radar.

Just this past summer, Politico reported that Elon Musk and Andrew Yang connected on creating a third party to upend America's political system.

We're going to get to Noble Mobile in just a minute.

And like you said, there is this idea of actually getting people to use their phone less, which is really interesting.

I want to go back to this idea of you and Elon teaming up to create a third party to upend America's political system.

Are you talking to him right now about that?

Well, some folks would argue that he has changed a lot since 2020, or at least his positions have changed a lot.

And in fact, in 2024, he said he wasn't going to even get involved in the presidential race.

And then he did to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars and even serving as a special appointee in the administration.

Politically, are you aligned with him?

Do you think within your lifetime there will be a president who wins who is not a Democrat or a Republican?

Well, I understand the politics of it.