Tim Ulinger

Well, she admits it was naive and she thinks it was willful ignorance, perhaps.

Really, from the hours of conversations that...

Alison Mack had with the reporter, Natalie Robamed.

I mean, you can really hear her thinking this through and still trying to come to terms with things.

But yeah, you know, she admits it was naive and says she thinks that if she'd recognized Ranieri was manipulating them all, she would have had to admit that she'd hurt people too.

The one reaction I heard was from India Oxenberg, the daughter of the famous actress Catherine Oxenberg, who –

led a years-long campaign to get her out of NXIVM.

And India, in a quote to Vanity Fair magazine, said that she appreciates the fact that Allison is now talking and that she has a right to tell her story.

Right.

She says even after she was arrested, she still didn't know what to think and that it's been an evolution for her and it's going to take time.

Well, after prison where she served about 21 months, she was released early on good behavior.

She's now about 43 years old and she's studying for a degree in social work and recently married.

Well, thank you so much.