Tim Wilson

Is that how it plays?

Right.

So what's specifically different or unusual about science and social science that you're going to now do it differently from what you, one, thought you were going to do and two, other subjects?

Does this stick?

Because 2029 for mandatory, it's two elections away.

You may not even be there.

No, two quick things.

Immigration, 24-ish thousand.

Is this edgy, or at 24,000, are we a little bit settled on this, and is it going to be an election issue, do you think?

Yeah, but it's not 130 is what I'm saying.

I'm just trying to work out what's going on with Luxon and his social cohesion and Seymour and Peters.

I'm not interested in bitching about immigration between now and November, that's all.

All right.

You have a good weekend.

Appreciate it.

Erica Stanford in education and immigration, as it turns out.

Now, Kiwi drivers, this is worth trying out.

Next time you fuel, the old fuel light starts flashing on the car or the bike or the truck or the whatever, skip the usual servo, pull into the nearest Waitomo, fuel stopped.

So you will notice the difference pretty quickly.

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