Tim Wilson

They don't tell you where on the list it is because that's for commercial sensitivity.

The rule seems to be it'll be for a body mass index of 35 or more with at least two comorbidities.

So that's something anyway.

It's normally about $400 a month.

My point being, the reason I'm so fascinated in this,

is that it's the David Seymour argument around Pharmac, and he is, of course, in charge of Pharmac.

If you can spend a hundred bucks to save a thousand, why wouldn't you?

The thousand you save, of course, is the dialysis you're not doing, is the surgery you're not doing, is the any number of health complaints, woes and worries in the public health system that do not eventuate.

because people lost a lot of weight, got healthier, and transformed their lives.

Because everything I'm reading about GLP-1s at the moment is it's beneficial in terms of organs within your body in so many different areas.

I mean, yes, you drop weight, which in and of itself is fantastic.

But what it does for the rest of your body apparently is increasingly amazing.

The more they look, the more they find out because this is still, to call it experimental is not fair, but it's still very new.

A lot of people give up alcohol.

A lot of people feel so good about themselves, they take up exercise.

A lot of people just transform their lives.

So if you can do that, if you can fund more people who are health-wise challenged and solve their problem and therefore you don't end up

In the hospital system, surely to spend $100,000 to save $1,000 makes perfect sense, doesn't it, at the end of the day?

21 minutes away from eight.

Now, New Zealand rugby's been very busy, hasn't it?