Tina Knowles
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321 appearances
3 recordings
3 series
first heard Apr 2025
last heard Jun 2025
Tina Knowles’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Well, I think that that was justifiably based in fear, and it was real, but I think that when I was a teenager, I think, well, I just think to survive, that you're living in it. You don't have a choice about it, so you just don't let yourself dwell on it. But I think that my mother's fears of things gave me a fearlessness because I didn't wanna be that way.
And I wanted to, if somebody was messing with my kids, then I become a beast. I'm gonna fight. And when somebody's trying to control me, I'm gonna fight. But I got that from just not wanting to be fearful. But what I do understand is that my mama was still behind the scenes. She was protecting us in her way. I just didn't see it when I was young. I was like, she didn't protect me.
But she did the best she could do with all the fear that she had because of the things she had been through. How could I expect her to be fearless?
Yeah, the things that, you know, I took the good from my mom, which was so many great things, but I also... learn from the things that I felt like she didn't do such a great job on, and that was to protect my children. I think, you know, I would speak up. I would fight with people. I remember traveling with them, especially the business that they went into, entertainment. It was very scary for me.
And I remember having to go and fight with light people, fight with, you know, the music people. And here I was, this country woman from Texas with this big hair and this thick, thick accent, and people didn't really respect me because they were like, who is she to come in here and start telling us about light?
And I'd say, well, you know, I don't know about light, but I do know that they look gray and they're some black girls and you better get that blue light off of them. And I wouldn't leave until they, I wasn't aggressive, I wasn't loud, I would just stand there and they say, okay, well, can you move? No, when you change the light, I can move. And I protected them.
I didn't let people do certain things around them. They couldn't smoke weed in the studio around them. They couldn't curse. Can you imagine? My country self in there telling these producers, I'm sorry, but can y'all not smoke in here? And I remember just having to be a little gangster sometimes. I remember one time we were in one of the first things that we went to in Florida.
And there was this group, and I'm not going to say their name, but they were behind us. And they said, oh, I'm going to go take a picture with these and call the girls. And they were like 16, 17. And they said it one time, and I was like, Tina, shut up. So you could feel yourself, right? I could feel myself. So I turned around, and they said it again. And I said, I don't see your mama out here.
Oh, no. No, but let me tell you, the record... What was that girl's name? What was her name again? Medina. Medina. Like, I'm going to Medina you up in here. So the record people came, and they were like, oh, my God, Miss Tina, you cannot do that. We've got to get you to the car. And they told me the name of the group, and they were like, they will shoot you.
And I was like, well, they're going to have to shoot me because they can't talk to my girls like that. And so I did a lot of things out of just being naive, you know, because that just came out of my mouth.
Yeah, I think one of the things is just that when somebody asks me what's the best advice I can give to them, it is always that if you have more than one child, to see that child. for who they are, to try to find out what makes their clock tick or whatever, what excites them, what are their best qualities, and not compare.
When you grow up, that was another thing that I think my mother, she liked her boys. She liked her boys.
That's right. That's right. But my mom, my brother Larry, that was just her heart and soul. So she'd be like, can you go in there and fix Larry's bed? And I'm like, no. Fix his bed? He can fix his own bed. There you go. But I think I learned from that, too, because I feel like... You can't, you know, you love your kids the same.
And then there are qualities about one that you like better maybe than the other. But it's so important to make them feel just as important. And especially when you have a five-year gap like my girls. And so one of the things is when Beyonce just wanted a little sister so bad, and she just loves Solange and adored her. Until she got one. She was ready to send her back.
But by the time she got to be 10, she was in that group. And all of a sudden, I just started noticing that the girls in the group would say, shut up, Solange, because Solange would be in there trying to run things, trying to teach up choreography. Trying to keep up. She was trying to keep up. Keep up with her sister. And Beyonce started letting them say, shut up, Solange. Be quiet, Solange.
Mama, come get Solange, you know? And I was like, this is Solange's house. Y'all in her house. Don't you love Tina? Yes. No, I'm like, this is our house. Y'all visiting. So, you know, but I took them to therapy because I saw a division. Okay, let's stop there. She took these people to therapy.
I love that. I did. And, you know, I remember some of my relatives saying, you're going to make them kids crazy. But I wanted them to be close. And I didn't want there to be this rivalry. And I didn't want it to be that Beyonce was not ride or die for her sister first. You don't let somebody do your sister like that. And so I took them to therapy, and I found this young man that was amazing.
And he explained it all to Beyonce, because I had been explaining it to him, but she wasn't listening. That's what they do. That's what they do. Feed children. Yeah. So things got immediately better with them. Beyonce hated therapy. Solange loved therapy. And so Solange kept going. And eventually her therapist passed away. And so she stopped going as a kid. But it was just great for them.
And, you know, I used to have to have a Solange day for her because when the kids are not... really close together, I think it's way harder. You know, when they're really close together, it's different, but I just didn't want that rivalry, and they have been close ever since.
You know, so... And they look up to them so much that that is very hurtful to the younger kid, you know, and a blow to their self-esteem.
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