Tina Provis

I've seen people blob either side.

So some people are being like, good on him for recognizing her as a true artist.

Like, that's what we want to see.

And then other people are like, why do you have to bring down these other pop women just because they started businesses and like...

And I've got to say, like, I thought it was an interesting little soundbite, like, and I understand why it's kind of picked up in the headlines a little bit or the conversation because when he first says we have daughters and I was like, oh, I hate that answer.

Yeah, I was just about to say that annoys me because, sure, you're crediting her, but the only reason you're going to credit her is because you only relate through your daughters.

Yeah, my daughter likes her and, like, because of the subtext of when male musicians or men in general say that is, like, she's just for the little girls.

Like, she's not for me.

I'm a real musician.

Like, I like real music.

Yeah, right.

So first when he said that, I was like, oh, that's weird.

that's such a boring answer of like, I'm too manly to like Taylor Swift.

But then when he kind of went into her songwriting, I was like, I mean, that is true.

Like she could have a billion, billion dollar business right now if she had a clothing line, a makeup line.

Merch is different because I feel like that's just, that's what artists have on, you know, they have like items that you can buy on tour because you want a sweater or a t-shirt to remember your time there.

And that's a normal thing.

But it's true that- For slapping your name on something.

Yeah, and I can't think of any other musician who doesn't have a clothing line, a beauty line, a handbag line, a skincare line.

That's true.