TJ Holmes

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775 appearances 22 recordings 4 series first heard Nov 2024 last heard 17 Apr

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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present · The Diddy Trial: Third Week of Testimony Resumes · 28 May 2025 podcast

Well, I guess that speaks once again to the psyche of everybody in that world, knowing that this guy is the one we all depend on. This is the one we all have to serve. So let's figure out what we have to do, what we have to endure, whether that's pain, whether that's embarrassment, whatever we have to do to survive in his world and to keep this guy happy.

Bill, look, the prosecution, if nothing else, is building an idea of a world that we had no idea about and has been consistent.

And makes no sense in the real world, you know, to not blame the person who's actually committing these atrocities, or who you say is, but verse or rather than the people who are making him upset, which that's kind of an insane thing to think about for me. And she also said that Cassie wanted her out of Diddy's inner circle. So you know, she definitely had a tumultuous relationship with Cassie.

And certainly that was explained on the stand, at least by Capricorn. And it's just wild to hear all of what she said happened specifically on the kid Cuddy situation. The cross-examination was very interesting because Diddy's lawyers went after Capricorn because yes, she's saying she was kidnapped. She's saying she went against her will.

She's saying he brandished a gun and she felt like her life was under threat. But they pointed out that she previously said she went with Diddy to Kid Cudi's house in order to keep him from doing something stupid. She denied that, says she doesn't remember saying that. And that's the question. Did she go willingly to protect him, to do her job or what she thought was her job?

Or was she taken against her will?

Look, legal experts out there say this is a very important part of the prosecution's case. They need to prove that a crime had taken place here. The kidnapping is a very, very important thing. It's not just about sentiment anymore. It's not just about, oh my, this guy's crazy. He had a gun. He did some silly stuff. He was mad. He was... Even hitting a woman. No, no, no.

The kidnapping, they say, is very important in building a case about a criminal enterprise. So there was another potential incident in which she was kidnapped, though, if they could possibly prove, because Capricorn Clark explained that there was another incident a different year in which she was in charge of jewelry for Diddy. That bag went missing.

And she was taking robes to an abandoned floor of a building, a dilapidated building, and was subjected to a lie detector test all day, several days, by some big dude who told her she needed to act right or you're going to find yourself in the East River. He gave her that threat when she was so nervous they couldn't get a good reading, they said, on the lie detector.

And he told her, you need to calm down because if I can't get a good reading, they're going to throw you in the river. So that's a threat, one, and potential kidnapping as well. So that is, now the details are salacious in that, but for legal reasons, this is very important for them building it.

Yeah, you just put yourself or imagine it does sound like a scene out of a movie. It doesn't sound like real life. This was all happening here around the Manhattan area. And apparently she described this guy, you said a big dude. She said he was five times the size of her is what she said on the stand. And he was intimidating.

And yes, she said she felt like her life was under threat because she couldn't relax enough or calm down enough. for the lie detector to have a good reading when that bag of diamonds went missing. She also describes another incident back in 2006 where she apparently walked up to Diddy's personal chef and made an offhanded comment because they didn't have turkey bacon.

And she said, I hate living here or something under her breath. The chef hears it and goes and tells Diddy in the next room what she just said. And then what Diddy did next, she claims he came running at her, running at her from the other room and pushed her violently because and then said, if you don't want to live here, get the F out of here now. And so she says she did leave.

So you hear all of this and these stories, what she witnessed, what she experienced, she says, and she's still begging God. Years and years later to come back to work for him, pleading for her job, begging him for forgiveness.

That was over the Cuddy stuff, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. That was emails, right? She said she sent in 2014 and 15. This is one part where they said she did cry pretty hard on the stand, having to read these emails in which she was begging for forgiveness for having not told him that Cassie was dating Cuddy. That was 10 years ago and she's on the stand.

Still crying about it. And upset about it. And yes, but this is after she's been pushed, after she's been threatened, after she's been afraid for her life. She's begging for forgiveness. That's wild to me to hear her talk about this. And then there was an incident in Central Park. Yes.

Now that one is, again, she was taken to Central Park. It was late at night. Just Diddy and a security guard. This one jumped out at me because I think about Central Park. We spend so much time in Central Park. We think about how many times we've run or enjoyed. There are nothing but happy thoughts. quite frankly, anytime I think about Central Park.

It's this setting of beautiful movies and you're strolling hand in hand or you're taking a beautiful run or you're taking in, you know, the beautiful scenery and the people. Yeah, you're not thinking about violent crimes. I mean, I know they can happen, but certainly it's not what you think of.

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