Toby Ord

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #250 – Toby Ord on where AGI timelines go wrong · 6 Aug 2026 podcast

And I think that there's been a failure to consider best response.

So I think that that counter to the idea of no one should get this.

No, no, we should get it first.

I think it kind of doesn't really work as well as people think.

Exactly.

And it's almost like, so move the queen here.

Like it can be taken, but we're hoping they won't see it.

Exactly.

I mean, I've heard that there are five different Chinese translations of that essay, for example.

So they've definitely heard it.

And so I think that that approach of we just get there first and then have all the power at the world stage, I think is overrated.

And then there's also these questions of is it possible to verify it and so on, right?

How do we trust them?

And the jaded negotiators.

I mean, it is a problem that they're feeling like that.

I think that they're jaded on discussing a whole lot of issues that are a lot less important than this.

I would say this issue to those negotiators is more than 100 times as important as any issue they've ever negotiated before.

If the negotiator was told, you'll get killed if you don't succeed in this negotiation, they'll be like, oh my God.

They won't be feeling jaded at that point.

They'll be feeling, if anything, a little bit too excitable or something.

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