Toby Ord
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first heard Aug 2026
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And then with tractors, like pull the halves apart from each other.
And so the spy planes from the opposing side could witness this and just like credibly see the destructive capacity be destroyed.
And then those, as far as I understand, those planes are still on the runways in halves.
Because someone was like, well, hang on, this is a way you could do it.
And so I think at the moment, that's the kind of thing you come up with after you've been thinking about this for quite a long time.
Whereas at the moment, there's a lot of people who've thought about it for less than one day, like less than eight hours full time thinking about is verification possible, who say, oh, it's probably impossible.
And so I guess we will all die or we'll, you know, and I feel that that is a bit of a ridiculous approach.
I mean, it's reasonable to think it might be impossible to do the verification.
Maybe we'll think about it for years and we won't find any ways.
But I think that there are a lot of credible ways.
And that's an example that...
You couldn't have initially done that.
It required the Overton window to move a bit before that one was possible for the US to say, this will literally involve destroying capacity we've already built.
That would have been annoying at first, but once they realized that it would also destroy the same amount of capacity on the other side, you start to think, you know what, even though we've already built it, it's probably worth doing.
I think an example that would be very analogous to that is at the moment, there's a lot of chips that aren't being tracked.
and where we don't know exactly how many have been smuggled into China and things like that.
But you could have, say, like-for-like destruction of that capacity.
So as a kind of simple example, you could say the US agrees to bring a million GPUs or a million H100 equivalents worth of GPUs to Geneva, and China will bring a million there as well.
And what they'll do is they'll both test each other's GPUs to make sure they all work.
And then they'll both destroy them, would be the simple version, but probably you could do better than that and just both put them into escrow.
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